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inwe inwe
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Ladies and Gents just in the 2019 boat show will NOT go ahead this year. Sorry as this leaves a lot in doubt. This leaves a lot of events in doubt like what about the Thames Raid. Beale Park has new events manager etc.

Richard
Port-Na-Storm Port-Na-Storm
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Hi Richard,
Thanks for the update, I'm sad but not surprised.
I presume you got this from Ben (previous event organiser)?

Perhaps Pete Greenfield might know a bit more about any future plans?

Regarding the Thames Raid it does change things in that it removes a suitable destination/pulling out spot.

But it does free us from the constraints of dates and venue if we wanted to do something a bit different this time round.

Best Regards
Graham.
inwe inwe
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I got this from an email from Pete. He forwarded one from Ben with comments. Pete is having to cancel ABBA and the CCC at short notice. The reason seems to be financial but leaves hope for 2020. Pete , of course is having to rewrite some of his editorial for next months mag. Maybe someone will come along with a big rescue plan.

Richard
Paul (admin) Paul (admin)
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The Thames Raid juggernaut will keep rolling on.

I convinced Ben we where a key part of the Beale Show many years ago. I'm sure I can convince the new events manager.

I'm assuming we want some mooring for the bigger boats.

Does anyone know the DCA view on Beale 2019?

Cheers
Paul
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There has been a similar message from Pete Greenfield via Keith Muscott on the DCA Forum.

I quote Keith;
"In such a disordered situation anything is possible, even a rescue, but it is far too late for the Show to be anywhere near as complete as it should be. The best that Pete hopes for is, '...that the show is cancelled this year to be reinvented for 2020, at Beale Park or elsewhere, which could provide the opportunity to reinstate our competitions and more.'
 
We must not include Beale 2019 in our rally programmes, obviously, but at the same time we might remain alert to the possibility of a slimmed down event without most of the usual exhibitors present, which we could decide to support – or not." end quote.

So Watercraft and the DCA are assuming that Beale Park in its usual guise will not be happening.

Graham.
 

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Hi,
Is it possible to get into the Beale park lake when there is not an event on?
Steve
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LASER41420 wrote
Is it possible to get into the Beale park lake when there is not an event on?
No. The swing bridge at the Thames entrance is normally kept locked.

However I'm sure it could be opened by the staff if we came to some agreement, like holding a rally.

-Paul
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It's an interesting thought... how many people would be interested in a rally of some sort at Beale. DCA. Old Gaffers, HBBR, etc.?

Not sure what the response of Beale Park would be but there would be some logistics issues. One would be the need to arrange for toilet/shower facilities. There are some toilets at the entrance to the wildlife park, they may be sufficient if the rally campsite is at that end of the lake. Another would be the need for landing stages, not sure if there are any there when the show isn't providing them. Last that occurs to me now is the security for the swing bridge. Doubt we'd be allowed to leave it unlocked and unattended.

Those and other problems notwithstanding, the idea of a rally of some sort is attractive!

Tim.

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LASER41420 wrote
Is it possible to get into the Beale park lake when there is not an event on?
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No. The swing bridge at the Thames entrance is normally kept locked.

However I'm sure it could be opened by the staff if we came to some agreement, like holding a rally.

-Paul



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Timmo wrote
It's an interesting thought... how many people would be interested in a rally of some sort at Beale. DCA. Old Gaffers, HBBR, etc
A lot of people will be interested Tim.

I recall talk of a steam boat group using the new Lechlade marina for a Thames raid.

The DCA hard-core members love a challenge.

We will finish the 10th anniversary Thames Raid at Beale - it would be great to have a weekend bash.

....and no barking dogs

Cheers
Paul
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Sad news, but it does expand our possibilities as to venue and date.
inwe inwe
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There is the financial side . IF possible Beale Park would require remuneration. Then of course there is the not so small item of insurance etc. etc. Remember we are not a corporate body.

Richard
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inwe wrote
There is the financial side.
Camping is the best funding opportunity, perhaps 25 people or more if family turn up for a BBQ on the Saturday.

As for insurance you look after yourself and comply with Beale rules: life jackets compulsory,  children must be accompanied, 3rd party insurance per boat, dogs on a lead, get fit enough to swim 4 lengths, carry 2 anchors, don't eat too much red meat, plenty of fresh vegetables, cut back on alchohol and butter, weight loss classes available (t&c apply).

Paul
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I am in favour of keeping The Thames Raid going as close to the original outline as reasonable.

The week 26th -> 31st May or close, yes?

1.  Find out from Beale if they would accept a small group parking for the week and pulling out as usual;  on an individual financial basis.

2.  If the lake and campsite is not being used that weekend, are they open to the idea of a larger group, if we can muster one and again, how much?

Or some compromise in between

3.  There isn't much up stream for some way, so picking a marina with slip, further downstream.  Checking Google Earth and my ageing map, the nearest possibility is the Thames and Kennet Marina, which does not actually appear to have a slip, though there is one nearly opposite on the South bank.

4.  A completely separate venue, like a canal and river loop, or some such.  Any suggestions?

I need to have a definite plan, as soon as possible, as I am relying on step-trans-ponders to fly over from America and take up carer duties in my absence, so flights will have to be booked and held to.

Paulie, are you volunteering to make an initial approach to Beale?

Nil Desperpanicum

Not yet

CW  ol–)
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Also in favour of keeping the raid to the same week. It's cleared and defended in my diary, changing could be difficult for me.

When we raided downriver from Beale we stopped (on a miserable wet evening) at a marina before Reading. They had a slip if I remember rightly, right bank just past the main buildings.

However, if a private arrangement can be reached with Beale that would be very satisfactory! Happy to pay my share of any charge.

Tim


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I am in favour of keeping The Thames Raid going as close to the original outline as reasonable.

The week 26th -> 31st May or close, yes?

1.  Find out from Beale if they would accept a small group parking for the week and pulling out as usual;  on an individual financial basis.

2.  If the lake and campsite is not being used that weekend, are they open to the idea of a larger group, if we can muster one and again, how much?

Or some compromise in between

3.  There isn't much up stream for some way, so picking a marina with slip, further downstream.  Looking Google Earth and my ageing map, the nearest possibility is the Thames and Kennet Marina, which does not actually appear to have a slip, though there is one nearly opposite on the South bank.

4.  A completely separate venue, like a canal and river loop, or some such.  Any suggestions?

I need to have a definite plan, as soon as possible, as I am relying on step-widgets to fly over from America and take up carer duties in my absence, so flights will have to be booked and held to.

Paulie, are you volunteering to make an initial approach to Beale?

Nil Desperpanicum

Not yet

CW  ol–)


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Did you miss my last heavy hint Paulie, when you wrote -

"I convinced Ben we where a key part of the Beale Show many years ago. I'm sure I can convince the new events manager."

....and in my reply I enquired -

"Paulie, are you volunteering to make an initial approach to Beale?"

Answers on a PC?

CW
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Chris,

Tim gave me an old contact number at Beale, Jenny we think.

I will try to call Monday or Tuesday but its not clear how many office staff are still employed at Beale or even if Ben is still involved (possibly not if the show is cancelled).

Paul

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Think her name might have been Ginni

But I'll check archives for correspondence when I get back to UK weekend after next.

Best.

Tim.

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Chris,

Tim gave me an old contact number at Beale, Jenny we think.

I will try to call Monday or Tuesday but its not clear how many office staff are still employed at Beale or even if Ben is still involved (possibly not if the show is cancelled).

Paul




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Hi,

Could we get by with permission to leave cars and trailers there for the week + someone to let us in by opening the bridge on arrival? A modest fee could be agreed to cover both.

Alternatively could the shuttle bus run work in reverse, with cars and trailers left in the campsite at the Trout Inn?
Steve
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I'm obviously not making myself clear Steve, you wrote -

"Could we get by with permission to leave cars and trailers there for the week + someone to let us in by opening the bridge on arrival? A modest fee could be agreed to cover both."

On 17th January I posted -

"1.  Find out from Beale if they would accept a small group parking for the week and pulling out as usual;  on an individual financial basis."

I had considered suggesting leaving the vehicles at Lechlade, but it still requires a destination to retrieve the boats and I felt that Beale Park was perhaps a safer venue to leave our transport.

Hey Ho!

CW
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The reverse shuttle is worth exploring; it only needs a car accessible slope/slip near the water.

The Rose Revivied pub on the Thames has a campsite large enough for our cars+trailers. We managed to haul out MilliBee on a short slip and a lot of hand winching, Little Jim should be ok as Al has a super-hero trailer!

The pub's location reduces the Raid by a day or two, unless we:
1 go beyond Beale to pull out the boats, or
2 go upstream from the pub for half a day then reverse downstream towards Beale.

These are options we can discuss.

Paul

PS Other opinions are available.
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