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Tom Tom
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I'm entering a fun contest.

It's a four hour, #65, plywood boat building contest.

So, I'm looking for plans for a canoe that could be constructed in two or three hours by three

people with only hand tools.

Likely three sheets of plywood.

Simple construction.

Thank you for an direction you can offer.

Surprisingly my Google search hasn't turned up much.
-Tom
Chris Waite Chris Waite
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Here you go Tom

A skiff from two sheets, but if you need it to be a double ended canoe, then make two front ends and join them together:

 

 

 

Cut the bow and stern in, to suit:

 

Any good?

Chris W
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Another CW - design - great! Is that the same hull like the "katie beardy"?

No it isn't.

But where are the differences? What are the advantages of the two different hulls?


... still planing, hoping for this summer...


Greets Cello
Sorry for my poor English, I'm not a nativ speaker and school ist far away ;-)
Tom Tom
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A good candidate Chris, thank you!

I've been building paper canoes all day from 4" X 8" sheets of paper!

I underestimated the number of ply sheets.
-Tom
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Hi,
Could be some new post Beale canal raiding options here. Meet at the show, build some CW skiffs over the 3 days, go raiding afterwards!
Simples
Steve
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Well Bless my Soul

'Octavia' and 'Katie's fore-feet are, to all intents identical.  The sides on 'Octavia' are also exactly the same cut - actually all eight pieces, hence the name, which is also repeated on the after end*, whereas on 'Katie' the 'sides' fore and aft are rather different and only identical end-for-end:

 

*On each boat, be sure you understand which edges form the keel, which the chines and which the gunwales, otherwise you'll end up with a humpback whale, or a striking slug, or something worse.  They are marked on the plan, but if you are not sure, I'm just out here in cyberspace, itching to make sure you get it right.

The plans show a flatish under-section for the stern on 'Katie Beardie' which are to provide extra buoyancy for stores and to iron out the wake at any speed and were plagiarised straight from the International Ten Square Metre Sailing Canoe.

In either case, if a single frame midships is set up with full in, or out-wales, then the hull will tend to take on the correct shape, though a few props between the wales will produce a better curve which you can push around until you like the shape; personally I prefer something slightly beamier a tad aft of amidships.  I would be happy to provide the midships sections of either if anyone wants to take this further.

To make a paddling canoe, you could use two front ends of either design, but I think mixing one with the other could prove disastrous.  Note that the the hull on both boats comes from just the two sheets of 4' x 8' ply.  

Otherwise it would be cheating

CW
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Reminiscent of the Sikaflex Challenges.

Simon
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Hi Chris,

thanks a lot for your lines! I'm still learning about designs and looking for some work this summer...

Greetings Cello
Sorry for my poor English, I'm not a nativ speaker and school ist far away ;-)
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     The blurb says a 2 man canoe plus gear....   but should carry 3 easily.  



       http://www.andrewlinn.com/plans/lazyweekender/index.htm     


       (If this was a tent rather than a canoe, it would be marketed as a 4 man unit ! )
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Fantastic Andre!

Thank you.

I have narrowed it down to three different designs.

A mono hull, a trimaran and a hydrofoil.

The tri is radically rediculous and the hydro, well, it speaks for itself.

I'm going to see if we can get some sponsorship money to build some prototypes

and do some testing / sea-trials.

Cheers!
-Tom
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Apologies Tom - I edited the posts as you requested in your email, but a few things went wrong. Luckily I have the original messages:

Hello,

Mid February and my cold, hardened, bruised heart is warmed by the thought of a July 1st, warm summer day,

noon start of another four hour, budget (65#), three man build/race here on the sunny southwest coast of Canada.

Odd that I should be posting here on a UK site but my anscestry is British and there simply doesn't seem an

appropriate forum here in Canada to post on...

I have finalized this years design and now just need the sponsorship money and crew to start the ball

rolling and get a prototype on the water to learn from (oh, and some warmer weather).

This years motto is, simplicity.

I am, once again, very excited about the whole process of the project.

Gone are the multiple 24'   3/4" X 3/4" stringers, replaced by four 20'  2 X 4's.

Gone is the 6mil plastic skin, replaced by a 1500' roll of 16" wide shrink wrap.

Gone is the roll of tape, replaced by... the self sealing shrink wrap.

Gone is the string replaced by a few more screws.

Gone are the pontoons, replaced by triangular, 6 degree angle of attack hydrofoil/stabilizers.

Gone are the two 8' cross bars, now one 10 footer.

Gone is the feather weight of last years 65 pound boat, now 130 pounds.

LOA 22'
Beam 1' (well, 12' if you include the cross bar and stabies)
Draft 8"
Freeboard 6"
Cross section rectangular stem to stern
Rocker zero
Sit on top style, like last year
Bulkheads 2 compared to 12 last year

Crew this year is anticipated to be two adults and one youth.

The chubby buttocks will support the two adults aft while the fine bow the youth.

It should be 1/4 the building effort in this the 25 year anniversary of the power tool free event.

The two 120 degree course changes (corners) will prove the learned challenge with this years design

but an innovative, fixed angle, snap down intermittent rudder along with an unorthidox route plan could

prove to be the clincher in securing the gold medal!

-Tom

Say NO to Brexit. Kick it into the long grass
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Tom,
Oops the You Tube video has gone also, but of course it will still be on You Tube so the post can be rebuilt easily.

As Chris said add more pictures please as they tend to be worth a thousand words.

-Paul
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Tom Tom
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Too bad so many post got removed.

I guess we should have just left well enough alone.

Thanks anyway for trying.

My drawings are more about my process and not really ready for public viewing but what the hell.




-Tom
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Tom,
I've saved your full sized photo safely, tweaked the contrast and uploaded a sensible size to the previous post.

Do you have any photos of the competition? The more the merrier.

Cheers
Paul
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Tom Tom
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No, just screen captures from YouTube video unfortunately.

On Feb 18, 2014 12:36 PM, "Paul (admin) [via UK HBBR Forum]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
Tom,
I've saved your full sized photo safely, tweaked the contrast and uploaded a sensible size to the previous post.

Do you have any photos of the competition? The more the merrier.

Cheers
Paul


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Last years entry
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Hi, Tom's been having some problems posting his video so the HBBR elves have been beavering away to help him sort things out.
With any luck it should appear below here.



or you can click on it here.
http://youtu.be/OW1iRPvzVrI

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Thank you, but actually I wasn't trying to post that video, it's terrible.

I was only posting the screen capture from it as photos were requested of the race and I don't have any.

If video is sought, here is one of much better quality/viewability:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GW3Ry-8gkoU&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Thank you for your efforts though, I appreciate the thought.

Cheers!

On Feb 18, 2014 3:56 PM, "Port-Na-Storm [via UK HBBR Forum]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi, Tom's been having some problems posting his video so the HBBR elves have been beavering away to help him sort things out.
With any luck it should appear below here.



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Hey, look at that, I can edit my posts now, wow, terrific.

Found another photo (as requested) from the race.

This was three years ago and the winning boat propelled by three beefy firemen with single blade paddles.

In the YouTube video I took the screen capture from, you can see them very nearly dump upon boarding at the race start.

I'm pretty sure they took on some water...

Cheers!
-Tom
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